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policy and it is not. >> i do talk at ron paul a fair amount so i'll limit myself, but that's a strain ron paul captured this election cycle with republicans. they are sick of war just like the rest of america. >> the reason is that the lobby in washington is extremely powerful. we keep wondering why they still yield power, but that's ultimately the reason. they have extreme power in washington. it's the same reason gun control is so hard to get. there are powerful lobbies and the pro-israel lobby is one of them. >> chris, can i join in on one point here? >> yeah. >> we don't want to break the bank on this. the detractors of israel think the u.s. relationship is driven by the power of domestic politics. and israel's defenders on the other hand believe domestic politics is irrelevant. the u.s.'s relationship is driven primarily by value. and glenn should understand this, the pro-israeli lobby in the united states has a powerful voice, but it does not have a veto. and the farther away you get from capitol hill where, in essence in my judgment, there really is no genuine serious or honest
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